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Auf dieser Seite werden Anträge zur Erteilung des Botstatus bearbeitet. Sämtliche im Wiktionary eingesetzten Programme, die automatisch arbeiten (Bots), müssen unter einem separaten Benutzerkonto registriert sein und müssen den Botstatus haben. Über Ausnahmen wird nur nach vorheriger Absprache mit der Community entschieden. Grund für dieses Vorgehen ist einerseits die Tatsache, dass durch den speziellen Botstatus mehr Transparenz und Kontrolle geschaffen werden kann. Andererseits hat es jedoch auch praktische Vorteile: So können Benutzer mit Botstatus auf den letzten Änderungen sowie der Beobachtungsliste ausgeblendet werden. Auch bei halbautomatischen Programmen kann der Status daher nützlich sein.

 Info: In einem am 5. November 2025 beendeten Meinungsbild wurde beschlossen, dass einem Bot nach 15 Monaten Inaktivität das Bot-Flag wieder entzogen wird. Bots, die zugleich globale Bots sind, sowie System-Bots sind von dieser Regelung ausgenommen.

Sollte der Botbetreiber seinen Bot später doch wieder einsetzen wollen, so kann das Bot-Flag jederzeit erneut beantragt werden. Sollte der Botbetreiber die Zuverlässigkeit seines Bost zuvor schon ausreichend unter Beweis gestellt haben, wird dem Antrag ohne vorherige Prüfung selbiger zeitnah stattgegeben.

Neue Anfrage stellen	Request Bot Approval
Bitte füge {{subst:Bots/request|Benutzername des Bots}} am Ende dieser Seite ein oder klicke auf den folgenden Link.	Please add {{subst:Bots/request|Name of the Bot}} to the end of the page or click the following link.
Anfrage stellen	Request Bot Approval
Entscheidung abwarten	Awaiting Approval
Deine Anfrage bleibt ungefähr 7 Tage stehen. In dieser Zeit können Einwände, Fragen oder Kritik von allen Benutzern vorgebracht werden. Der Botbetreiber hat in dieser Zeit die Möglichkeit, darauf zu antworten, Stellung zu nehmen oder den Bot entsprechend zu verbessern. Danach entscheidet ein Bürokrat über die Vergabe des Status. Der Status soll nur vergeben werden, wenn aufgeworfene Einwände und Probleme mit dem Bot ausreichend behoben wurden. Sollten noch wichtige Fragen offen bleiben oder noch Probleme mit dem Bot bestehen, wird der Status nicht vergeben.	The request remains open for approximately 7 days. Every user can comment on the request during this period of time, ask questions of the bot operator or post his objections to the bot. After 7 days have passed, a bureaucrat will approve or reject the bot approval request. Bot status is not granted if there are any outstanding questions, problems or objections to the bot.

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DelintBot

DelintBot (Diskussion • Beiträge • Sperrlogbuch • sulutil)

• Botbetreiber: Redmin
• Funktion/Aufgaben des Bots: Fixing lint errors on this wiki (some of which have made pages on your wiki partially unreadable in dark mode: see Organizacja Narodów Zjednoczonych and авторучка for example)
• Programmiersprachen/Framework: mw-api-client (source code of the bot)
• Bemerkungen: en, bn
• Datum: 16:32, 1. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Diskussion DelintBot

Hallo Formatierer, kannst Du evtl. beurteilen, ob die Bearbeitungen, die dieser Bots in den anderen Projekten vorgenommen hat (siehe mw:Special:CentralAuth/DelintBot), auch für unnser Wiktionary sinnvoll wären? Ich frage vor allem im Hinblick auf den sog. Dunkel-Modus. Außerdem gilt meine Sorge auch unseren ganzen Vorlagen und dass diese hinterher womöglich völlig anders aussehen. Gruß --Udo T. (Diskussion) 10:56, 3. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Ich habe in den Änderungen des Bots nicht gesehen, dass er Vorlagen anpasst. Unsere Flexions-Vorlagen sind ja so geschrieben, dass sie im Dunkel-Modus schwarzen Text auf schwarzem Grund erzeugen, da sie noch aus einer Zeit stammen, als es den Dunkel-Modus noch nicht gab. Was natürlich unvorteilhaft ist. Vielleicht kann User:Redmin ein Beispiel geben, wie sein Bot die beiden oben angegebenen Einträge anpassen würde. -- Formatierer (Diskussion) 18:43, 3. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

(Sorry for replying in English.)

I took a look at those two pages and it looks like there is a different cause for the unreadability of the text of the links than what I had originally expected (which was the absence of corresponding color rules for the background color rules, as I have seen on other wikis): a CSS rule is trying to turn the links to non-existent entries inside inflection tables black at all times, which works well in light mode but renders the text unreadable in dark mode. I suggest you modify this rule so it only works in light mode, and add a new rule that would change the color to white when in dark mode. You could use the "skin-theme-clientpref-night" and "skin-theme-clientpref-day" classes for this.

As for other pages, what the bot does is that it checks if every background color rule on every element has a corresponding color rule and adds a suitable color rule if not. This is to fix the "night-mode-unaware-background-color" errors.

The bot is supposed to work without altering anything else, and there are quite a few tricky cases I am alway monitoring for, to ensure no enhancements to the bot's capabilities harm any page. Redmin (Diskussion) 14:21, 4. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Just wanted to make sure you have seen this, @Formatierer and @Udo T. :) Redmin (Diskussion) 19:38, 5. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Hello Redmin: Can you show us, using template "Vorlage:Ü-Tabelle" as an example, what changes would be necessary? This template was mentioned very frequently in the list Spezial:LintErrors/night-mode-unaware-background-color. -- Alexander Gamauf (Diskussion) 12:31, 6. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Hello @Alexander Gamauf, an edit like this would be made to that page (that is, if it were not protected; I would like to make the bot add edit requests whenever possible for protected pages but I have not implemented it yet). As you can see, the bot would choose a color based on the background color, seeking to choose one that would make the text easily readable on the already-chosen background color and edit it for every element where a background color declaration/rule is not accompanied by a color declaration. This would fix the error. Redmin (Diskussion) 20:57, 8. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Hi Redmin, DelintBot has just been granted bot privileges. It has also been granted the "Passive Reviewer" privilege. I wish you every success with your projects. Regards, Alexander Gamauf (Diskussion) 21:48, 8. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

@Redmin, however, I can't see any difference between the 1st version and the 2nd version, especially when I activate the dark mode. So what is the advantage of the changes that your bot wants to make? --Udo T. (Diskussion) 21:55, 8. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Thanks for granting the privileges, @Alexander Gamauf.

@Udo T., there will not be a visible difference for every page that is edited but it will make the lint errors go away and make it easier to reuse Wiktionary’s output on other websites. Do you only want edits to be made if a visible difference is apparent on this wiki? That is not possible yet but I hope to work on this in the coming months and could focus on other lint categories for the time being if that’s what this community would prefer. Redmin (Diskussion) 22:15, 8. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Hi Redmin, it is a general rule that bots should not make changes in the source code that do not cause any external changes. Especially not on a large scale.

I realise, of course, that after fixing many lint errors, you may not notice any change externally.

Nevertheless, it would perhaps be better to concentrate on the other lint errors first and wait with the ‘night-mode-unaware-background-color’ errors until a solution has been found in phab:T412630 and your grant has been accepted.

In addition, your bot should not make any changes to user pages or any discussion pages. Unless such changes are absolutely necessary. In this case, however, the OK of the community must be obtained beforehand. With kind regards --Udo T. (Diskussion) 23:21, 8. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

I am confused by the first two sentences: could you please clarify if you are talking about changing my bot’s source code or the templates on this particular wiki?

Since there is concern about the ‘night-mode-unaware-background-color’ category, I can surely disable the fix for that but I would caution that Phabricator task will probably take a very long time to get addressed, if it’s addressed at all, because it does not seem like any team at the WMF currently wants to pick it up, and there are a number of pages that are, as I have shown above, partially unreadable in dark mode right now. In that case, I think I will fix some of the more popular templates on my own.

Regarding user and discussion pages, it is quite common for lint errors to be on these pages, and for editors to fix them. For discussion archives in particular, these fixes are important to make sure they are rendered appropriately so if these changes would be controversial then I want to start a new discussion focusing on this issue in particular. Otherwise, I am happy to explain further. :) Redmin (Diskussion) 00:01, 9. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Of course I meant the source code of pages here in Wiktionary... :o) --Udo T. (Diskussion) 10:19, 9. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

@Udo T., so you want me to make sure whatever edits the bot makes visibly improves how the page looks? If that's not what you mean then further clarification would be helpful.

@Alexander Gamauf, your input on the points raised by @Udo T. here would be appreciated. What I am mainly confused about is whether I need to make a new request to get permission to run the bot on user and discussion pages and whether I should stick to fixing dark mode-related issues on my own for now. Redmin (Diskussion) 13:12, 9. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

@Redmin, this is actually a rule that applies in principle in almost all wiki projects for all users, including bots:

See for example here in the green box. Let me translate for you:

„Important: An edit should always lead to at least one externally visible or effective change; in addition to a change in content, for example, a typo correction, a PDfix or a typographical refinement, as long as this has no flavour or cosmetic background. A mere syntax modernisation or source code formatting does not justify a new article version.“

However, as I wrote above, it will not always be possible to implement this rule when correcting lint errors.

However, if a fix for the dark mode does not lead to any change, i.e. not in either light or dark mode, then the question must be allowed as to whether the corresponding editing by a bot makes sense... --Udo T. (Diskussion) 13:33, 9. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Addendum: And as far as user pages in particular (but also discussion pages) are concerned, there are also corresponding rules in most other wiki projects, see e.g. here:

„In principle, you should only work in the Wikipedia article namespace and, above all, stay away from user pages. Exceptions must be discussed here beforehand.“

--Udo T. (Diskussion) 13:41, 9. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Hi Redmin, as long as Wikimedia displays LINT errors, a bot must be allowed to correct them. However, I would recommend primarily cleaning up the templates, as they represent the majority of the error sources. Once this task is completed, we can conduct a survey among users to determine whether user and discussion pages should also be handled by your bot. Keep in mind that you are unknown here and you will need to earn their trust through your work. -- Alexander Gamauf (Diskussion) 15:33, 9. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)

Thank you. I will proceed accordingly then. Redmin (Diskussion) 21:36, 9. Apr. 2026 (MESZ)